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PostPost subject: 04/12/2011 - Forum Hudud Ustaz Fathul Bari Bersama MCA
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:22 am
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Event: Hudud & Its Implications On Non-Muslim In Malaysia
Location: Wisma MCA
Date: 04/12/2011 - 9:00
Organised by: Institute of Strategic Analysis and Policy Research (INSAP)
Moderator: Mr. Lim Chee Wee, President of the Malaysian Bar Council

Panelists:
1. Professor Dr Chandra Muzaffar
President, International Movement for a Just World (JUST)

2. Mr. Edmund Bon
Lawyer and Campaigner, Malaysian Centre for Constitutionalism and Human Rights (MCCHR)

3. Ustaz Hj Mohd Kamal Saidin
Religious Adviser to Menteri Besar of Terengganu

4. Ustaz Fathul Bari Mat Jahaya
Chairman, Jawatankuasa Kerja Ulama Muda UMNO (ILMU)

What is Hudud? Can Hudud be implemented without any amendments to the current laws including the Federal Constitution? If Hudud is implemented, how will this affect the secular status of the country as enshrined under the Federal Constitution and the foundation of the country with its ethnic, religio-cultural diversity?

What are the legal implications of Hudud on non-Muslims in Malaysia? If a case involves both Muslims and non-Muslims, who will decide if the case is tried under Hudud or Penal Code? If the case is tried under Hudud and involves both Muslims and non-Muslims, what are the legal rights of non-Muslims? Can non-Muslims, including women, who are witnesses to a crime involving both Muslim and non-Muslim parties testify in Syariah court? In the case where non-Muslims are perpetrators, will they be subjected to the same punishment under Hudud?

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PostPost subject: Re: 04/12/2011 - Forum Hudud Ustaz Fathul Bari Bersama MCA
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PostPost subject: Re: 04/12/2011 - Forum Hudud Ustaz Fathul Bari Bersama MCA
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:27 am
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Jazakallah

o/t : abuaqif, minta video interogasi boleh dak? Very Happy
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PostPost subject: Re: 04/12/2011 - Forum Hudud Ustaz Fathul Bari Bersama MCA
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:00 am
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faisal wrote:
:jkk

o/t : abuaqif, minta video interogasi boleh dak? Very Happy

second that

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PostPost subject: Re: 04/12/2011 - Forum Hudud Ustaz Fathul Bari Bersama MCA
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:02 am
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Assalamualaikum

buat ulasan sikit..
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PostPost subject: Re: 04/12/2011 - Forum Hudud Ustaz Fathul Bari Bersama MCA
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:17 pm
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chua soi lek dah komen dah.

apa ufb nak buat, tarik tangan dia ka? No1
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PostPost subject: Re: 04/12/2011 - Forum Hudud Ustaz Fathul Bari Bersama MCA
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:19 pm
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FB UHAJ "Kalau marahkan DAP, marahlah PAS. PAS akan berfikir dan berusaha melakukan sesuatu untuk menyelesaikannya. Tapi kalau marah MCA, janganlah marahkan UMNO, nanti kita pula yang kena marah. [Pergi Jahannam sama itu CSL]"
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PostPost subject: Re: 04/12/2011 - Forum Hudud Ustaz Fathul Bari Bersama MCA
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:26 pm
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Buat Apa nak marah marah.
Sayang sayang kan elok...sejuk sikit hati nie mendengarnya.
Semua makhluk tuhan , tuhan sayang.
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PostPost subject: Re: 04/12/2011 - Forum Hudud Ustaz Fathul Bari Bersama MCA
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:47 pm
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Sy mahu tonton video ni tapi belum ada kesempatan. Sy ada nak tanya, siapa sudah tonton video ini tolong jwp sy.

isu 1:
Sy difahamkan penasihat agama MB Terengganu Ust Kamal menuduh hudud PAS bercanggah dgn quran sunnah hanya krn enakmen syariah Kelantan letak umur mukallaf adalah 18.

isu2:
Termasuk juga hal meliwat Isteri tetapi tidak dikenakan hudud. Ust Kamal terus mengatakan ia bercanggah dgn quran dan hadith.

Soalan sy:
1- Adakah benar statement itu dikeluarkan oleh Ust Kamal?
2- Apa respons UFB dalam forum itu?

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PostPost subject: Re: 04/12/2011 - Forum Hudud Ustaz Fathul Bari Bersama MCA
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:16 pm
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akhu_hurairah wrote:
Sy mahu tonton video ni tapi belum ada kesempatan. Sy ada nak tanya, siapa sudah tonton video ini tolong jwp sy.

isu 1:
Sy difahamkan penasihat agama MB Terengganu Ust Kamal menuduh hudud PAS bercanggah dgn quran sunnah hanya krn enakmen syariah Kelantan letak umur mukallaf adalah 18.

isu2:
Termasuk juga hal meliwat Isteri tetapi tidak dikenakan hudud. Ust Kamal terus mengatakan ia bercanggah dgn quran dan hadith.

Soalan sy:
1- Adakah benar statement itu dikeluarkan oleh Ust Kamal?
2- Apa respons UFB dalam forum itu?

saya tak dengar pun yg itu...tapi cara ustaz kamal lebih pda politik, dilihat UFB ada sekali sekala berbisik kepada ustaz kamal...cara ustaz kamal bukanlah cara manhaj sunnah...masa juga terlalu sedikit, but UFB did well, dan menghormati masa, nak compare jauh benar ufb dan ustaz kamal punya penerangan, sangat2 jauh...

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PostPost subject: Re: 04/12/2011 - Forum Hudud Ustaz Fathul Bari Bersama MCA
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:43 am
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Assalamualaikum

Apa objektif forum tu?

Nak buktikan (terutamanya kpd non-muslim) bahawa hudud sememangnya tak boleh/sesuai dilaksanakan di Malaysia,
atau nak buktikan hudud yang digubal kerjaan PAS Kelantan/Terengganu banyak kelemahan dan perlu dimurnikan sebelum boleh dilaksanakan.

Dalam The Star tak quote langsung pandangan2 UFB.

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PostPost subject: Re: 04/12/2011 - Forum Hudud Ustaz Fathul Bari Bersama MCA
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:50 am
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whamka wrote:
:salam

Apa objektif forum tu?

Nak buktikan (terutamanya kpd non-muslim) bahawa hudud sememangnya tak boleh/sesuai dilaksanakan di Malaysia,
atau nak buktikan hudud yang digubal kerjaan PAS Kelantan/Terengganu banyak kelemahan dan perlu dimurnikan sebelum boleh dilaksanakan.

Dalam The Star tak quote langsung pandangan2 UFB.

Paper Star quote CSL jer... seolah2 dia yang lebih tahu pasal hudud. Itulah kita, diperkotak katikkan oleh media.
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PostPost subject: Re: 04/12/2011 - Forum Hudud Ustaz Fathul Bari Bersama MCA
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:03 am
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Abu_Muiz wrote:
chua soi lek dah komen dah.

apa ufb nak buat, tarik tangan dia ka? No1

Tu je lah, mana ada Plan B ..... Tak SUNNAH. ha ha ha
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PostPost subject: Re: 04/12/2011 - Forum Hudud Ustaz Fathul Bari Bersama MCA
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:11 am
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bujal wrote:
Abu_Muiz wrote:
chua soi lek dah komen dah.

apa ufb nak buat, tarik tangan dia ka? No1

Tu je lah, mana ada Plan B ..... Tak SUNNAH. ha ha ha
Elok saudara jangan menyibuk dalam AFN.
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PostPost subject: Re: 04/12/2011 - Forum Hudud Ustaz Fathul Bari Bersama MCA
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:31 am
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Kesimpulan Forum ;

- Hudud memang tak sesuai dilaksana di Malaysia .

- Hudud yang dirangka di Kelantan adalah Hudud PAS bukan Islam

- Hudud PAS berlawanan dengan AQS .

Inilah pemahaman yang dapat oleh cina MCA dan Hadirin.

Jadi apakah ianya menguntungkan Islam ?
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